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    Quote Originally Posted by iSpeed View Post
    Yes, a huge mistake for Vail and a big loss for NASTAR. See this previous post on the NASTAR site:
    http://www.nastar.com/articles/vail-...-1-with-nastar

    Vail Resort recorded the most NASTAR Racer Days during the 2010-11 season.....the most NASTAR Racer Days and the most NASTAR starts in that season.
    Yup the EpicMix people aren't in touch with what's really going on at the skier level. I'm sure it's some one who sits in a office in Broomfield and hasn't even seen a nastar course let alone raced on one ever that wrote that response to the FAQ.
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    I added a comment to the CBS New story.

    I was going to voice my outrage on Vail's site but it's out of date. They're still publicizing their NASTAR program.

    Those mountains sent very large contingents to the Nationals every year. Now they'll have to qualify elsewhere. I suspect Copper is going to get a big bump in business this year.

    When a fellow racer learned the news, her thought was "Wow, Lindsey must really hate Julia".
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    If I ever get to one of their resorts, I'll try it......my family enjoys running gates and racing. We don't really care who is sanctioning the race. MACC, Nubs Speed Series, SARA, OVSC, NASTAR or USSA Regions.

    What's important to us is that resorts offer activities my family wants to enjoy at what we consider a fair value. Running Nastar out west is a 2 run deal for us, it's a familiar warm up before we try to tackle the rest of the mountain we traveled to ski. The best we can hope for is too much Powder for the course to open.

    (but I do have to admit, after reading the "how it works", it seems like a semi rip off of the Nastar system....and last I checked, Ted was a bit faster than LV and he is the Nastar zero time)

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    Semi rip off??? It's a total rip off!!

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    Wow, this sounds like very bad news to me. Guess I'm stuck trying this EpicSki rip-off of NASTAR. It will be very sad to say goodbye to NASTAR. Wish HQ could reason with Vail Resorts. If I dont like the EpicSki racing, I'll be looking for a Copper Mtn pass 2013-14 for sure.
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    I work within 1-2 miles of Vail Resorts HQ, here in Broomfield, CO. I'm going to do a bit of research and then request a meeting. (in person)

    I have been a former Peaks Pass holder for years and have 4 current Epic Passes within my family. I plan to interview the proper executive (assuming access to) as a customer and as the NASTAR Forum Moderator.

    For all of the well placed commentaries herein, this community deserves a response. Feel free to place your questions in this thread and I'll advise when I can get a meeting set with Vail Resorts HQ staff.

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    Ok All, I have been in contact with the director of Vail Snowsports School director and the Vail Golden Peak Snowsports school POD director. I have pointed out a few concerns with this choice and they are in negotiations to clarify the issue. Nothing is final as of now. As I find out more about this issue I will post it.

    From my point this would be a huge mistake as I have posted before. The goal is to try and add more value for the customer while at the Vail resorts. Lindsey's marketing people have done a great job of getting her more known to the public than Ted. One of the draw backs of not having the Nastar program just from a PSIA view is the certification requirement. I doubt Vail resorts will want send it's hundreds of instructors trying for certification to other resorts to meet their PSIA racing requirement. I don't think they thought this one through as deeply as they needed to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patmoore View Post
    I added a comment to the CBS New story.

    I was going to voice my outrage on Vail's site but it's out of date. They're still publicizing their NASTAR program.

    Those mountains sent very large contingents to the Nationals every year. Now they'll have to qualify elsewhere. I suspect Copper is going to get a big bump in business this year.

    When a fellow racer learned the news, her thought was "Wow, Lindsey must really hate Julia".
    I posted a comment to that CBS news story.
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    BSR:

    Excellent commentary. I will send you a PM later today to follow up on some of your thoughts and actions.

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    I will say if I lived in CO and skied the resorts effected I would not be happy. I would then have to get the required days in at another resort to qualify for Nationals, if that was my focus. If Vail was my home mountain would I leave and never come back because they let Nastar go? I don't think so. Being someone who now travels there on vacation I do not feel it would have any impact on me at all. Yes I like to run a course or two while on a ski trip but for the most part I am out skiing the mountain and not hanging at the race course. I do to much of that at home.

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