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    Smile How much does waxing really matter?

    OK, I get it in a World Cup race that a tenth of a second over a two-minute course can make the difference between a podium and out of the top ten. In that case I can see that every possible advantage should not be overlooked.
    But in the context of a straight, flat 25 second course, is proper wax vs. no wax at all going to make a noticeable difference? I have never had my skis waxed, and I'm always slower then I feel I "ought" to be. So if any techs would like to weigh in, please tell me: is a proper waxing going to change my life? Or will I just need to admit that I'm not as good as I think I am?

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    It'll definitly help some, although if you have "never waxed" your skis they may already be pretty well trashed and require a stone grind before you bother waxing them

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    First, welcome to the NASTAR Forum! Lots of great ski racing fanatics here.

    I wax on a very regular basis. i.e. Every time I race, train or free ski. While no wax will make an amateur as fast as Ted Ligety or Robby Zehner, it will help. If you doubt me, try some chunky peanut butter... Just kidddin ya, but I'm sure you get my point.

    Anyway, even cheap Hydrocarbon wax beats no wax. This is even more important during extreme cold. Without the proper wax, your skis stick. Let us know what do and we look forward to seeing you around.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WAL4098 View Post
    is a proper waxing going to change my life? Or will I just need to admit that I'm not as good as I think I am?
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    Yes, wax will help skiing and racing substantially. It's pretty easy to do, so there's no reason not to do it.

    The cleaner your carves are through the course, the more you'll get out of wax.

    Another thing that will help any NASTAR racer is aerodynamic clothing. You don't need a suit if you're not into that, but tighter-fitting pants and tops can help a lot.

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    I'd rather win by .001 on a 25 second course with wax, than lose by .001 on the same course with no wax. And I've had some wins that were nearly that narrow. With no wax, what would the outcome have been? I shudder to think. :)

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    There are two key components to waxing your skis:

    1. Waxing is a requirement for the general “health” of your skis in order to protect them from the elements and to promote longevity of your investment.

    2. Waxing increases/promotes/enables the ski to perform to its design intent.

    To elaborate on these two points, ski bases accept wax not just onto the surface of the base but into the base which keeps it from drying out. A base that gets too dry will get a sort of furry texture which makes it very sticky and grabby on the snow. This will make it harder to ski well. This problem can be fixed, but a new stone grind will be required to repair the damage done. If left too long, the base can even dry to the point where it can shrink and pull away from the edges. This allows moisture to get into the skis core and can ultimately ruin your skis.

    In short – you’re doing yourself and your skis a disservice by not maintaining them properly through proper edge tuning and waxing.

    The next question is how often you should wax. Personally, I wax every race day. If I’m on an extended ski vacation and freeskiing only, the most I will skip is one day. Once you start waxing on a regular basis the more you will notice the difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stockliman View Post
    In short youre doing yourself and your skis a disservice by not maintaining them properly through proper edge tuning and waxing.

    The next question is how often you should wax. Personally, I wax every race day. If Im on an extended ski vacation and freeskiing only, the most I will skip is one day. Once you start waxing on a regular basis the more you will notice the difference.
    Just more info re: waxing
    I'm pretty obsessive with keeping my skis tuned and waxed - can do it pretty easily on your own. Re: waxing, I used to iron on my wax, cool, scrap, and brush with multiple brushes. Takes me about 20-40 minutes for a pair of skis.

    This past year I've been using the Wax Wizard - directed there by Mike DeSantis (SkiMD) who I've had tune and race prep all of my and my wife's skis. He's amazing - check out his web site - Someone on Nastar forums brought him up 2 years ago and I gave him a go - so glad that I did.

    Anyway, the Wax Wizard system does not require ironing, so no risk of ruining the base of the skis, and I can do a pair of skis in about 10 minutes with the same or better results than with ironing. It's better at preserving the base structure than with ironing on wax. Way more portable for traveling as well. As a result, it's easy to wax and brush after each ski day and help keep your skis ready to rock.

    If youre new to waxing and tuning or even old hat at it, I'd consider the Wax Wizard system. The Wax Wizard is a departure from "old school" waxing that I was very skeptical at first, but am a convert.

    BTW, I don't have any connection to SkiMD and Wax Wizard. Just spreading the word, because once you've found stuff that makes skiing more fun and fast, you want everyone to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuMan View Post
    This past year I've been using the Wax Wizard - directed there by Mike DeSantis (SkiMD) who I've had tune and race prep all of my and my wife's skis. He's amazing - check out his web site - Someone on Nastar forums brought him up 2 years ago and I gave him a go - so glad that I did.Fu
    I believe that I was the one that posted Mike's info a couple of years ago. I've been a regular customer ever since.

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    Thanks for doing so. Mike's work is amazing! In addition, when I first sent my skis to him, he was able to accurately describe the performance of my two pairs of skis just by examining them. I was floored. The man knows his stuff and has been very helpful.

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