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    2011/2012 season open

    I know this may be a little premature, but getting to read all National Championship posts has got me going through a little withdraw... OK A LOT OF WITHDRAW, but does anyone have any idea where they would like NASTAR to have an OPEN this coming 11/12 season?

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    Hey bigrig!

    Have a couple of things to discuss with Bill Madsen, I will ask if we've set a schedule and identified the resorts for next season.
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    Sweet. BTW, love all your pics of Nationals. It was almost like being there.
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    I think the Midwest Open should be in Wisconsin - either Granite Peak or Devil's Head. If not there, my resort Chestnut Mountain in Illinois could do it. It needs to be located in a spot that Minnesota, Wisconsin, UP Michigan, southern Michigan, Illinois, Iowa, Indiana and Missouri racers can get to it relatively easily.

    I love the Midwest Opens....sure hope we will continue to have them.

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    Well, bigrig, funny you should ask...

    While bumping into Bill on Saturday, we got to talking about the Eastern Open, the format, and location. IF there is only one Eastern Open, I feel that Northern PA or Southern NY is the best central location for the entire East Coast. That way no one extreme is driving 12 hours. That said, Bill threw out a carrott... IF THERE ARE NUMBERS TO SUPPORT IT, HE MAY BE OPEN TO HAVING MULTIPLE OPENS. So, there could be an Open in Vermont for the Northeast, and an Open in Southern PA for the Mid-Atlantic. I truly believe that the numbers would show. Heck, most Nastar locations have 30-50 racers on a weekend anyway.

    So, for the Mid-Atlantic Open, I would suggest Wisp on Squirrel Cage. It would make for an excelent practice for Nationals. Wisp has hosted the pacesetter trials on that run in the past. The pitch is similar to Lower Hughes without the side pitch. It is difficult, but managable. And definitely racable. That is my vote!

    Second choice would be Roundtop.

    Although, Deer Run at Blue Knob would be awesome. But timing equipment might be an issue for that hill...

    But all of those are only if there are multiple Eastern Opens. I think it would be unfair to our northern friends to host an Open down here with nothing up there...kinda like the first Open being in Maine...
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    I don't have the authority to volunteer their work but the guys form Phoenix Racing (who do the timing for Nationals) are based out of Bear Creek in Macungie, PA and an Open there would be great since BC has a slope-side hotel and a nice race run on Timberline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DMac View Post
    I don't have the authority to volunteer their work but the guys form Phoenix Racing (who do the timing for Nationals) are based out of Bear Creek in Macungie, PA and an Open there would be great since BC has a slope-side hotel and a nice race run on Timberline.
    I'm guessing you know that AJ holds a NASTAR clinic most every year at Bear Creek? I ran into Todd Loeper several times last week at WP and told him I had heard that they were looking to move the start uphill by 50-100-200 feet? Something like that?

    Fred does an incredible job with Phoenix Racing and I would certainly be a strong supporter to plug Bear Creek. I might even come back to Philly for that race!
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    That sounds like fun! Make sure it gets posted so we can plan to make it if possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JTBear View Post
    I'm guessing you know that AJ holds a NASTAR clinic most every year at Bear Creek? I ran into Todd Loeper several times last week at WP and told him I had heard that they were looking to move the start uphill by 50-100-200 feet? Something like that?

    Fred does an incredible job with Phoenix Racing and I would certainly be a strong supporter to plug Bear Creek. I might even come back to Philly for that race!
    I do know that AJ holds a clinic every year. Unfortunately it's usually for the USSA kids team but I may see if as an instructor, I can get in on it. AJ does run NASTAR with us regular folks and joins us for a drink afterwards.

    BC is supposed to move the start up about 50-75 feet uphill and we might even get a start shack (but I'll believe it when I see it). If that does happen, it will make that hill one of the best all-around NASTAR courses on the east coast.

    I agree Fred does a great job, we almost never have a run that doesn't properly register. We'd love to see you back on PA next season.
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    Eastern Open

    I think Bear Creek would make a great location from just what I have heard reading on this forum. I have heard they have a good hill with great equipment. Location seems about right for only having a single open. That entire area has a great Nastar following and getting a crowd would not be an issue.

    Seven Springs would be another good location. Hill size is small, but if set on where they do the USSA races would challenge experienced racers and not intimidate less experienced. The resort certainly has the right commodities and staff the pull it off.

    Maybe Hunter Mountain could be another option. I now they do ASRA races there and all who attend say that the courses are some of the best of their series.

    BK I know they have the hill to do it on Jack Rabbit or Deer Run. Deer Run maybe too intimidating for the less experienced and too short. About 25sec at the most for a fast racer. Jack Rabbit has been tossed around by myself and others. If the entire hill was used it could be almost 50-60seconds in length. The hill is not too steep, but has one moderating steep pitch that would keep the expirenced racers challenged, but not steep enough to intimidate less experienced racers. The big issure as putterman hinted, would be equipment. With a course that length the timing system would have to have the ability to run two racers on the hill at a time. Currently, they don't have that ability.

    Round Top has top notch equipment and infrastructure. The hill is not too challenging. If they would move the start up next to the lift it would be adequate length as well.

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