View Poll Results: Do you truly "get" two foot carving and Utilize in all your race runs, regardless of the c

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  • Yep, all the time, its as easy as can be

    2 13.33%
  • I thinks so, but not sure

    3 20.00%
  • I try but find I lose awareness during the race

    6 40.00%
  • I have no idea, two foot carve - what's that?

    0 0%
  • HELP! Somebody get me a coach!!!!!

    4 26.67%
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    very true, but, he is also racing DH, DH and super G are quite frankly a whole different world, esspacially DH. For GS, while a 50/50 carve is not quite optimal, it is better than the traditional methods.

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    Originally posted by snowmass59
    very true, but, he is also racing DH, DH and super G are quite frankly a whole different world, esspacially DH. For GS, while a 50/50 carve is not quite optimal, it is better than the traditional methods.
    50/50 Carve in a hard race course will probably put you on your butt quickly. Minimum two foot carve is 60/40. As you increase your speed, and Decrease you radius, you have to transition more weight to the outside ski. Failure to do so will cause sliding, and should the outside ski slide too far, you must complete the turn on the uphill ski, or you boot out. This is not usually occurring in a NASTAR course, but on a typical New England ICE course, you must get your weight on that downhill ski.

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    I have mostly been told by everyone (mt hood coaches and CBack coaches) to have almost all your weight on the downhill foot. They even had us do drills were we only use the downhill ski :shock:
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    Ah, a lively debate!!! What a waste of effort!

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    very true, but, he is also racing DH, DH and super G are quite frankly a whole different world, esspacially DH. For GS, while a 50/50 carve is not quite optimal, it is better than the traditional methods.
    Going, going . . .

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    Without a long drawn out response, I agree about the "not get hung up on 50/50....". But, to state two feet, most people think that means even distribution, not varied. Having both feet extended and angulated definitely allows for better carving and mostly for better transition of the turn. It is also a better platform for varying race course and conditions. Many a skier who is on one foot boots out or falls because the other ski cannot replace the downhill ski when it is off the ground or skidding across the hill.

    As for Lewis and the "older" skiers, they may not keep up with todays kids, but they can still whip up on us lil ol NASTAR racer. :lol:

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    Hah!

    Originally posted by Dr. NO
    As for Lewis and the \"older\" skiers, they may not keep up with todays kids, but they can still whip up on us lil ol NASTAR racer. :lol:
    Speak for yourself :wink: Nate Schwing, Bob and Bill Skinner, Harold Deblanc and quite a few others across the country I'll bet on. I might even take that bet myself. I believe Bill was within a second of Bode on Sunday's Nastar's Final's course and right there with Lewis with Bill running, ummm, about last so 50 skiers later on a warming spring course.

    Nate Schwing is moving from Masters to FIS seeded this year I believe (of course Nate IS only 22 or so, but nonetheless a Masters Racer first).

    Don't give up on us old guys that do Masters, if you be one of us you know better. Just because some of us elect to "Bully-up" and race Nastar don't mean we be slow.

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    Really???

    Hey, the guy that posted the "Easy, I do it all the time" vote in the poll need to tell us other "humans" how he does it, especially in the race course! I for one am dubious unless YOU ARE A WORLD CUP RACER.

    Please tell me how you do it so I can do it so easily. (I've been racing for 10 years and have been working on my two footed carver for 2 years and can only pull it off about 60% of the time in racing conditions).

    Moderator, how do I post to the poll???

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    Re: Really???

    Originally posted by JoeB
    Moderator, how do I post to the poll???
    Im not a mod. but You need to register then log in on your user name. Then when you pull up this topic you will be able to pick your choice.
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    when i race, i lose awareness, i go like unconscious, trying not to screw up and rememberthe basic fundamentals, i find that i do have time think before turns, unlike some sports (football) you think, you are dead, that is probably why i think i like skiing so much, it isn't tha painful, but yah, i sort of just zone out when i race
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    Hands, hands, Hands!

    Check out these shots of the good guys, which do you think had the better turn based on where their hands were in this set of pictures in Soelden, Austria. Great shots!

    http://news.dipag.com/photo_Frederic+Covil...0000001559.html

    http://news.dipag.com/photo_Joel+Chenal+%2...0000001566.html

    http://news.dipag.com/photo_Hans+Knauss+%2...0000001563.html

    http://news.dipag.com/photo_Hermann+Maier+...0000001562.html

    http://news.dipag.com/photo_Benjamin+Raich...0000001561.html

    http://news.dipag.com/photo_Arnold+Rieder+...0000001560.html

    http://news.dipag.com/photo_Bode+Miller+%2...0000001558.html

    http://news.dipag.com/photo_Sonja+Nef+%28S...0000001550.html

    http://news.dipag.com/photo_Barbara+Kleon+...0000001549.html

    http://news.dipag.com/photo_Karen+Putzer+%...0000001548.html

    http://news.dipag.com/photo_Anja+Paerson+%...0000001546.html

    Whether its the men or the women, the best hands in each shot more than likely resulted in better balance at the gate and a quicker transistion to the new turn.

    Check out the hip in each shot and the "inclination" of the upper body with regards to the direction of the turn. This pics are just one split moment in the turn but they do tell a story about each turn. I would make note of this site and check it regularly as the season progresses, a great reference.

    Good luck this season!

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