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    I was excited to hear about the NASTAR Open at Sunday River but then was dissapointed to see the dates - I already had reservations for Utah and could not give those up. So now I'm home looking at the (very sparse) results. Looks like 100 or so participants. What the heck is wrong with all the East Coast racers?!?!? NASTAR stepped up and put together a big event for the East and nobody could be bothered to show up. I'm embarassed to admit I'm from here now. We couldn't even get 10% of the entries from Nationals. Looks like they didn't even run the "Race of Champions" on Sunday?

    Bill - shedule an event for next year and publicise it by October 1 & I can promise 7 entries from my friends & family. Get another 13 peole to do the same and we can at least match this years roster.

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    Unhappy

    A couple of thoughts:

    • Unfortunately, the notification for this event was short fused, thus catching too many racers unable to attend.
    • The weakening economy certainly plays a part with the low attendance.
    • Sunday River, Maine while a great venue is not exactly local, nor easily accessible for most Eastern racers.
    • Some of us would have attended, had we (me) not have been injured. (I had surgery on Thursday 1/22) :mad:
    • I'd suggest a venue a bit less remote. Perhaps Whiteface, Okemo, etc..?
    I too, am hopeful that NASTAR HQ will look to host another Eastern Open next season and will provide notification by the close of this season, thus allowing all racers the necessary advanced notification we have with the annual National Championships.

    Just my thoughts...............
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    A couple of thoughts:

    • Unfortunately, the notification for this event was short fused, thus catching too many racers unable to attend.
    • The weakening economy certainly plays a part with the low attendance.
    • Sunday River, Maine while a great venue is not exactly local, nor easily accessible for most Eastern racers.
    • Some of us would have attended, had we (me) not have been injured. (I had surgery on Thursday 1/22) :mad:
    • I&#39;d suggest a venue a bit less remote. Perhaps Whiteface, Okemo, etc..?
    I too, am hopeful that NASTAR HQ will look to host another Eastern Open next season and will provide notification by the close of this season, thus allowing all racers the necessary advanced notification we have with the annual National Championships.

    Just my thoughts...............
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    Agreed.

    Great points - a Whiteface venue would provide a much easier time for us midwesterners to attend too.
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    Agreed.

    Great points - a Whiteface venue would provide a much easier time for us midwesterners to attend too.[/b]
    First off, Race of Champion results can be viewed here: http://www.nastar.com/2009OpenFinalsResults.htm

    Second, I attended the NASTAR Open at Sunday River with my daughter. I was very impressed with the organization. Both race days went quickly and smoothly. Of course, there were only 70 or so racers, but I think the race organizers were well prepared for more. There may be more central New England resorts, but Sunday River is a fabulous and affordable place to ski. I would return to Sunday River in a heartbeat. Steamboat isn&#39;t too easy to reach either! Thanks for a great experience!

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    JTBear, thanks for your post. That was well put with great tact. I don&#39;t really know the tone of the thread&#39;s originator, but from how it sounded, I was about to go off. I will defer to JTBear&#39;s comments, and refrain from a rant.
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    I&#39;m another who would have attended except we had one of our own races the same day. I was running the NASTAR at Bretton Woods the day before and met Chris Romano, who at the time had the most NASTAR runs in the system. Very nice kid who unfortunately ended up in a group on Saturday that put him with Rich Granger, the top ranked pacesetter at Wachusett who ended up with a 1.05 handicap and another guy from NH who had a .51. Chris is from that thriving mountain town of Bethesda, MD which I thought was hilarious.

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    I was at the event and had a blast. Sunday River is 3 hours from boston with a fairly easy ride. I do it weekly.

    The mountain made a good effort to support the event. I think it will grow in attendance as information gets out about it earlier and people understand how it works.

    This event started the kick off of Nastar racing at Sunday River. Many, RI, Mass, Ct and NH people make the ride here every weekend. I see some NY and Nj plates as well regularly in my complex. We get some norhtern VT people who just come across route 2 as well.

    Sunday River on the map looks far away but really is not that bad. I agree its a ride from some parts of new york.

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    Sunday River on the map looks far away but really is not that bad. I agree its a ride from some parts of new york.

    Just another view.[/b]
    It&#39;s a short 500-mile drive from Philly.

    I have no issue with the resort. I know they have excellent credentials by simple virtue of hosting US Alpine Championships and in my recent conversations with Bill Madsen, I understand that SUnday River did a great job with the recent event.

    It&#39;s just that the proximity does not lend itself to capture the wider audience of Eastern and Mid-Atlantic skiers. Respectfully, the battle cry of the NASTAR racers was for an Eastern event, not a New England event. So balance is the operative consideration that I&#39;m suggesting.

    That said, I will travel to Sunday River. I&#39;m just commenting on behalf of those who have contributed to this subject on the Forum over the past 2 years.

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    Thanks, Mike. That is spot on. Not only is it a bit of a ride from parts of NY, 500 miles from Philly, but I&#39;m easily 3 hours + from Philly (Northwestern Maryland). OK, not impossible...we seemed to have at least one person from MD, but if you look at the states from which most of the attendees reside...well, just take a look. I would call a large majority (fairly) locals. Again, Mike was right that it seemed to be a New England Open, not an Eastern Open. No ranting here, no anger, just opinion and observation.

    And AGAIN, thank you HQ for listening to our pleas. Sounds like you really tried hard to make this the best it could be.
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    I get both sides of this, just offering the other side. I remember seeing Sunday River was the only one to offer to host this as well.

    My point is at the North east at least covers a few population centers where some locations may not. Ie large base of people who race. A true test to gauge attendance would be how it would work with more notice and a better economy. Sunday River is also not real exspensive. You can get lodging fairly cheap. Its a couple of hour ride, but manchester Nh has an ariport, south west goes there. Portland has a international airpot. We do get some Canadian folks weekly here as well. It does show how far north we are. Point taken.

    I put some info on that in the lodging thread on this how to stay at a reasonable cost. Great shuttle service as well.

    I have been pusing for Nastar at the River for a few years as I mentioned to Bill." Selfish and personal" goals were satisfied. I&#39;m a happy camper. My opinion is obviously a little bias. I can live with that.

    This set up helped bring Nastar to my home mountain, they are use to hosting large events. Sunday river will always have those who say its too far away. I hear ya. I have that discussion with people weekly who drive further, casue they believe Sunday River is too far away. :razz:


    I found the post about hosting the event.
    Sorry for the short notice. We presented the event to a number of resorts throughout the summer and fall and we couldn&#39;t get any traction. We were ready to pull the plug when Sunday River stepped in and said they really wanted to make it happen. We have put together a great event on very short notice and so far the interest in the event has been very limited.

    The NASTAR Open was created based on the feedback from this forum. We really need the event to be successful and we need you guys to support this event or it will go away.

    As of today we only have two dozen people signed up for the race. Those people are going to have an amazing experience with the US Ski Team&#39;s recently retired head coach, AJ Kitt and Doug Lewis.

    Please join us at Sunday River.


    good discussion. Not my intentiont to stir the pot.
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