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    Re: PC NASTAR Blog

    Originally posted by backtomasters

    Results not yet posted but I got "chicked".  <a href=\"http://www.nastar.com/index.jsp?pagename=results&page=comp&compid=362224 &year=2007\" target=\"_blank\">Heidi Voekler</a>, our PC Pacesetter who ran at Keystone ran as an 8 Handicap.  
    Ah... um.. you DO know she was on the US ski team for several years, don't you? Not much disgrace in getting beat by her!
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    Heidi Voelker? The former USST Heidi Voelker from Pittsfield, MA? Hey, she was a Tri-state USSA racer. You got chicked by one of our female alumni??? (Well, ok.. one of the best racers...)

    I thought she was at Deer Valley...

    Anyway, an 8 handicap seems pretty generous for her.
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    Gary, sorry you got chicked by a former U.S. team member on Your Hill :D It's nice to know that Heidi can still turn them! Aren't they going to run Nastar over at Deer Valley as well?

    How did the SG runs go? Sounds a little chilly for PC. I hope to get some SG in this year as well. I wonder how you stacked up relatively speaking since you have about 35 lbs less potential energy :P

    Got to ski with Scotty a couple of weeks ago in PC masters training. He hasn't missed a beat with a couple year layoff. Bobby had us do the infamous one ski drill for a few runs and Scotty was easily the best of our group(including some name brand masters champs)!! You had to look close to tell he was only on one ski (inside or outside edge didn't matter). He truly has some amazing balance and I look for him to win back the NAASF title and some Masters races (if he so chooses).

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    I have a question about that pacesetters race.... Was it intended to establish handicaps for the pacesetters who didn't attend trials? Or was it just a fun walk through to test the timing, computer system, wiring, drills, etc.?

    If it was supposed to be a pacesetting race, it was flawed. I'll explain myself if that was the case.
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    Yeah, at trials the pacesetter is always in a suit. The reason is this... A suit is ALWAYS the same. You are eliminating one variable. "Coat" can mean a number of different things. At Keystone, in my coat run, I wore an insulated pair of side zip pants and a regular coaches style Karbon Parka. Others wore suits with training shorts and a tight sweatshirt over the suit. There is a lot of variance. If it is windy, big clothes make much more difference.

    Theoretically, you should have ended up with roughly the same par time either way, whether Heidi was fully dressed and you subtract 9.something percent, or if she was in a suit and you subtracted 7.something.

    I'm betting that a suit would have given you more accurate results.
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    Originally posted by backtomasters
    I must say that having any kind of trials is better than just making up HC's as before  :wink:
    Oh, most definitely!! I'm sure it's pretty damn close. I'm just saying the more variables you can eliminate, the better.
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    I think you probably owe it to the race department to at least mention what it is that you are dissatisfied with. I'm assuming you already addressed it with them in person before badmouthing them on the internet.
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    Originally posted by backtomasters
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    Ah... I see you deleted your original post. Hopefully you can get everything sorted out offline.
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    Edit:

    Ok, I do see an issue. Now I see (at least one thing) Gary is complaining about. I checked out PC's results... Wow.

    Check out Gary's results...

    Highest handicap: 16.something

    Lowest handicap: 0.01

    ...and everything in between.

    Kinda takes the "National Standard" out of the equation!!! :shock:
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    Something's wrong.............?

    Wow, a 5 yr old kid beats everyone?

    I sent a quick note to HQ asking them to take a look? Clearly, the results do not align!! :roll:
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