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    what is the best way to hit gates?

    for some odd reason I think that I will get into nationals and I will come in dead last if I do not get some halp and learn to hit gates.

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    hiting gates is not your objective, a clean turn is. If that clean turn is a close to the gate as it should be, and you have proper edge angulation, then just put your hands together as you reach the gate and have the arms pointing dead stright downhill, and you cant help but go fast, but dont try and hit gates, try and turn correctly, let the arc deturmine weather you hit the gate or not.

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    All I can say is I spent all sunday gate training and doning Nastar...I have one welt on my lower arm and above the elbow up to the sholder is all bursed and in pain from me hitting gates..Not sure if there is a good way to block GS gates or not.

    Anyway i would say most people DO NOT block them.
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    yea, that is right where you want them, unless you get enough angulation for your hip to clear the gate, which almost no on can.

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    Bruises!!

    Originally posted by snowmass59
    yea, that is right where you want them, unless you get enough angulation for your hip to clear the gate, which almost no on can.
    Wow!! So the massive bruises on both of my hips means I'm doing SOMETHING right??? :shock: :shock: :shock:

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    Re: what is the best way to hit gates?

    Originally posted by hallcharlie123
    for some odd reason I think that I will get into nationals and I will come in dead last if I do not get some halp and learn to hit gates.
    If you want to understand the technical aspects of the carved turn, I strongly recommend the book Ski Faster by Lisa Feinberg Densmore.

    You can get it at any large bookstore, Walden, Barnes & Noble, etc. It costs $19.95 and has been endorsed by many as "required reading for all racers who are just starting out, and a highly recommended read for the rest of us wannabes"! 8)

    Enjoy!! :mrgreen:

    Here's a link to the book:

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    sounds good volkl girl.

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    Re: what is the best way to hit gates?

    Originally posted by hallcharlie123
    for some odd reason I think that I will get into nationals and I will come in dead last if I do not get some halp and learn to hit gates.
    SM59 was correct. Hitting the gates cannot only be the wrong objective but can result in VERY slow times, especially at the Nationals. If you run 200th down your course there will more than likely be BIG ruts. Skiing a clean carve is paramount. Skiing the rut may be your only choice depending on where the rut begins and ends.

    We have done a little testing and found this interesting fact out to be true on most courses. The racer than can hold a "High Tuck" while not sacrificing their carve turns invariably has he better time. Why? On most Nastar Courses (and I believe this will be the case at the Nationals) you are dealing with Modified GS turn. Many of the turns in the course are not so offset that you must ski hands down. Hands up in the High Tuck position allows you to find the "Tipping Point" and make an aggressive two footed carve while throwing the wind up over your head, not hitting you in the chest. Most Nastar Courses allow for relatively high speed if you ski a clean carve line, so simply by having your hands in the high tuck (High tuck is very different than the low tuck you see Downhillers use on the gliding sections or flat sections of the course, you are standing taller so you can "roll" big angles) you will cut 10ths of your time by deflecting the wind resistance up on over your head.

    Try it and see. Remember, however, never use a tuck at the expense of a carved turn. Hitting the gates, more than likely will cause you to ski to straight a line and get late and low, especially if you are in the typical rutted course you get at the nationals.

    One last idea - Keeping your skis in the fall line by letting them move away from you after your release and making an aggressive "Cross-over" is way more important that hitting the gates.

    If you happen to hit a gate because of good course conditions and I high and early line, by product, not the goal.

    Billy Madsen is known to say "There is nothing glamorous about hitting gates", he is right. The low handicap guys do it only when their line dictates that need to be the tight on the gate or when they can come up under that gate (usually in the absence of Ruts).


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    Well put, Gary. (I mean, "guest") :D
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    Originally posted by jclose8
    Well put, Gary. (I mean, \"guest\") :D
    Didn't Samuel Langhorne Clemens also have a pen-name? (aka: Mark Twain?) :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

    I agree w/ Jamie, nice post............. 8)
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